Thomas SKINNER (Sgt.)

Father: Thomas SKINNER

Family 1: Lydia SHEPERDSON
Family 2: Mary
  1. Thomas SKINNER
  2. Abraham SKINNER
  3. John SKINNER

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INDEX

Notes

Line 2456 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: BIRT PLAC Essex County or Chichester County, Sussex, England

Line 2460 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: EMIG

Line 2461 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: EMIG DATE 1649

Line 2462 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: EMIG PLAC From Chichester, Sussex, England

Line 2464 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: EVEN TYPE Settled

Line 2465 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: EVEN DATE 1650

Line 2466 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: EVEN PLAC Malden, Mass

Line 2471 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: @@NI0164@@ NOTE

Line 2472 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: CONC Other possible lines:

Line 2473 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: CONT

Line 2474 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: CONT JOHN SKINNER (1) b. 1618 - 20, Braintree, England, m. Mary, daughter of

Line 2475 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: CONC Deacon Joseph Loomis. John Skinner was a member of Rev. Thomas Hooker's

Line 2476 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: CONC Company, which came to America in 1635 and settled at Hartford,

Line 2477 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: CONC Connecticut. He was one of the original proprietors of that settlement

Line 2478 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: CONC in 1636. He had five children, all of whom were born in America; Mary -

Line 2479 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: CONC Ann - John - Joseph - Richard. Daniel Skinner of Orange County, N. Y.

Line 2480 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: CONC might belong to this line of Skinners - similarities of names,

Line 2481 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: CONC residences, etc.

Line 2482 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: CONT

Line 2483 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: CONT RICHARD SKINNER (1) m. at Elizabethtown, New Jersey, May 1, 1666,

Line 2484 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: CONC Susannah Poulain. This man came to America from ?? with Sir Philip

Line 2485 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: CONC Carteret, colonial governor of the State of New Jersey, as one of his

Line 2486 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: CONC servants. In the early colonial days many men who wished to come to

Line 2487 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: CONC America "signed up" as a servant to a wealthy man, and thus he earned his

Line 2488 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: CONC passage. It is now known how long they had to serve for their passage to

Line 2489 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: CONC America, but, being a servant he would not be mentioned in events until

Line 2490 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: CONC he became a "free man." This is probably the reason for the fact that

Line 2491 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: CONC records of this man's children and grandchildren are very scanty,

Line 2492 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: CONC together with the fact that their residences were in localities were many

Line 2493 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: CONC of the battles of the Revolutionary War were fought, and those records

Line 2494 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: CONC were lost for all time. Daniel Skinner of Orange County, N. Y. might

Line 2495 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: CONC belong to this line of Skinners - similarities of names, residences, etc.

Line 2496 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: CONT

Line 2497 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: CONT (DSW)

Line 2498 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: CONT

Line 2499 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: CONT Notes for Thomas Skinner, Sergeant:

Line 2500 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: CONT

Line 2501 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: CONT Sometime between the years 1649 and 1652 there came from Chichester,

Line 2502 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: CONC England, one Thomas Skinner, bringing with him his wife and two sons, and

Line 2503 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: CONC settled in Malden, Mass. He had been a victualler in Chichester and was,

Line 2504 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: CONC on May 31, 1652, licensed to keep an ordinary in Malden. He was admitted

Line 2505 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: CONC a freeman in Malden, May 18, 1653. Thomas Skinner was born in England in

Line 2506 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: CONC 1617, and died in Malden. He married in England, Mary ______, who

Line 2507 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: CONC accompanied him to America. After her death, April 9, 1671, he married,

Line 2508 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: CONC second, widow Lydia Call, who died March 2, 1704. Children born in

Line 2509 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: CONC England.

Line 2510 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: CONT

Line 2511 from GEDCOM File not recognizable or too long: CONT (www.familytreemaker.com/users...Richard-A-Skinner-NY/GENE1-0001.h tml)

More about Thomas Skinner, Sergeant:

Fact 1: Ref: Skinner Kinsmen Update, Vol. 14, #1, pg. 10

Fact 2: Ref: LDS files (TM) Thomas of Malden - ver. 4.16 (www.familytreemaker.com/users...Richard-A-Skinner-NY/GENE1-0001.h tml)

He came to America from Chichester County, Sussex, England, about 1649-51 with his wife, Mary, and two sons. He was a victualler and May 31, 1652, was licensed to keep an inn at Malden. He was admitted as a Freeman at Malden, May 18, 1653. He was a selectman of Malden in 1680 and the same year was made a sergeant of the Malden Company in the First Regiment of Major Gookin. His house in Malden was situated at the s.e. corner of Cross and Walnut Streets. It was given to Skinner's son Abraham on Mar. 15, 1694-5.

It is BELIEVED Thomas Skinner's father was POSSIBLY Thomas Skinner, Lord Mayor of London in 1596. The Ancestry of Thomas Skinner; as researched by Ira James Skinner, Esquire in September 1989 resulted in the following.

"Thomas Skinner, born circa 1617, is thought to have sailed from Chichester in West Sussex for America some time between 1649 and 1653. He was accompanied by his wife Mary and sons Abraham and Thomas, but not by his son John, whose baptism took place at North Mundham, Sussex, on 19 Apr 1647, but whose burial has not been found. The family settled in Malden, Massachusetts, where Thomas was a victualer and Freeman. Mary died on 9th April 1671, and after his remarriage to Lydia Shepardson, Thomas died on 2nd March 1704; all were buried at Malden. Entries of the baptisms of Abraham and Thomas have been found in the International Genealogical Index: Thomas on 25th July 1645 in the Chichester Subdeanery Parish, and Abraham on 29th September 1649 in Pallant Parish, Chichester. However, no confirmation of either entry has been found in the original register of these two parishes, neighboring parishes, or the eight parishes of Chichester, and comprehensive searches by the West Sussex Record Office found no trace of the family in the Quarter Sessions rolls, names index, or indexes of wills and marriage licenses. As the West Sussex Record Office had already carried out such comprehensive searches in the local county records, it seemed unlikely that Thomas Skinner and his family would be found in West Sussex. We did, however, check the Surname Index, where references to Thomas were found. From these it was obvious that investigations into the family had already been undertaken with some thoroughness in the recent past. The Sussex Marriage Index had been examined and two Thomas Skinner marriages had been found: 9 Sep 1641 Thomas Skinner & Susan Hollans, both single, of and at the parish of Warbleton 9 May 1644 Thomas Skinner & Anne Marten at Chailey. Unfortunately, both these parishes are located in East Sussex, far removed from Chichester, where only a few apparently unconnected Skinner marriages were found. It is worth noting that Slindon, where Edward Skinner married Elizabeth Betsor in 1635, is only about six miles north east of Chichester, and that there were Gooddins in the neighboring parish of Aldingbourne, where Joan Gooddin married Thomas Betsor in 1622.

It was disappointing that this appeared to be one of those coincidences that are so common in genealogy, for both Slindon and Aldingbourne are covered by the International Genealogical Index, and this contained no relevant Skinner entries in these parishes; also in general the names Gooden and Gooddin(g) are more common in East, rather than West, Sussex. The name Goodwin was not found in the Marriage Index. The Protestation Oath Returns of 1641/2 (this listed all who signed, and all who refused to sign, an oath to live and die for the true Protestant religion, the liberties and rights of subjects, and the privilege of Parliaments) recorded no Skinners in Chichester, although there were nine at West Chiltington, about 17 miles to the north. This parish is covered by the IGI, which once again contains no relevant Skinner entries. It is strange that Thomas Skinner, whose son Thomas was supposedly baptized in Chichester three years later, did not appear in the Protestation Returns, and this raises a doubt about the accuracy of the location of the 1645 baptism, which had not been found during the earlier searches in the original parish registers. It is perhaps worth mentioning at this point that the batch numbers of the IGI entries of the baptisms of Thomas and Abraham both indicate that the information was acquired from a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, and not from the parish registers, so the details they give must be regarded with considerable suspicion.

It was, however, clear that a Skinner family was living in Chichester at the end of the 16th century. Made by Thomas Skynner of St Bartholomew parish, Chichester, in June 1599 and proved in November the same year, it named sons Thomas and John, daughter Sibell, wife Elizabeth and sister Margaret Hide, and although the son Thomas could not have been the ancestor who later emigrated, it is possible that he might have been his father. The International Genealogical Index contained two entries that might refer to this family: 5 Feb 1575 Thomas Skinner married Elizabeth Turkett Chichester, St Bartholomew 19 Jul 1588 Thomas Skinner son of Thomas Skinner baptized Chichester, St Bartholomew

According to the research that had been carried out at the time, the ancestor was not baptized in this parish, and no attempt had apparently been made to find the burial of the Thomas making the 1599 will. The name Thomas appeared in only one other Sussex will. This was dated 1611 and had been made by John Skinner, husbandman of Billingshurst, whose son Thomas was executor. Billingshurst is some twenty miles away, adjoining the parish of West Chiltington on its northern border. Work had also been carried out in Essex records, and the registers of two Maldon parishes, St Mary and All Saints, had been searched for the period 1600-1625. No mention of Skinner or any variant of the name had been found among the baptisms, marriages and burials in either parish. Two later marriages had been found in Maldon: -- ---

1642 Richard Skinner & Mary Cook Maldon St Mary

7 Oct 1654 John Skinner & Ann Bridge Maldon, St Mary

and also these interesting entries elsewhere 6 Apr 1618 Thomas son of John Skinner baptized Debden, Essex

10 Oct 1637 Thomas Skinner & Mary Legate married Cold Norton, Essex

1639 Thomas Skinner & Mary Blunt married Great Warley, Essex.

It was not clear from where this information had been obtained, but it seemed unlikely that it had come from the IGI, for Cold Norton is the only one of these three parishes to be listed there. Cold Norton is close to Maldon, but Debden, where the promisingly-dated baptism had been found, is some distance from Maldon, away in the north-west corner of the county. A microfilm of the Bishops transcripts of the registers of Maldon St Peter and Maldon All Saints for the years 1629-30 and 1639 had been examined, but no mention of the Skinner name had been found.

Bishops transcripts were started circa 1593, and normally run from Lady Day (25th March) to Lady Day. They can be useful not only when the original register had been lost but also when it survived intact, for in some cases they include information not in the parish registers, although there are often annual gaps and also errors and omissions owing to insufficient care in copying. This stems from the practice by some incumbents of making notes of all baptisms, etc., on loose sheets or in rough notebooks and copying them into the register book at the end of the year, at the same time making another copy for the Bishop; Alternatively, the transcripts could have actually been the rough register, which was sent off after it had been copied into the parish register. Lady Day also plays a role in the form of dating in use at this period. Prior to 1752 the records were dated according to the �Old Style� calendar, in which the first day of the year was 25th of March. This explains why some of the wills have double dating, for example 6th January 1618/9, because in "Old Style" dating this falls before the new year and is therefore dated 1618, although it actually occurred after the beginning of the historical year, the old Roman civil year, that is now recognized as 1619.

Very often the clerk, being aware of the ambiguities, used double dating, and there was often also considerable confusion after 1st January 1752, when the change-over took place. Some of the wills deposited in the local Essex courts had also been examined, and two sons called Thomas Skinner had been found. One was the son of Edward of Felsted, who was aged under 21 when his fathers will was proved in October 1629 (see Appendix 4(ii)). The other appeared to be the Thomas who had been baptized at Debden in 1618, whose father John had land in both Debden and Littlebury (in the north of the county on the border with Cambridgeshire). This will, dated 1631, named sons Henry and Thomas, daughters Ann and Jane, and wife Elinor. Although not close to Maldon, it would probably be worth investigating this family in the future to see whether this Thomas remained in Debden and had children there. If he did, then he can be removed from further consideration, but if no trace can be found of him at Debden or in the neighboring parishes his date of birth must make him an interesting possibility. We then checked the wills and administrations that had been deposited in the Prerogative Court of Canterbury.

This court had over-riding jurisdiction in England and Wales, and sold jurisdiction when a testator held possessions in more than one diocese or peculiar in the province of Canterbury, and also over those with estate in England or Wales who died overseas or at sea. The calendars were examined for the period 1584-1700 and a note made of all Sussex and Essex Skinner/Skynner, etc, wills and administrations. Sadly, most of the Sussex wills had been made by testators living in East Sussex or parts of West Sussex rather too far from Chichester to be of interest, but there was one that seemed more promising: 1642 Skinner, William of Bersted, Sussex. Will pr. Mar. 14 1641-2 by relict Susan As can be seen from Appendix 8, Williams sons were called William and John, and the name Thomas did not appear in the will. It seems probable that the testator was the brother to whom John Skinner, husbandman of Bersted, left his estate in his 1635 will. The Essex wills seemed of even less use, with most of the testators being members of a family of clothiers living in Braintree and nearby Bocking, and the name Thomas Skinner was not listed.

H R. Moultons Palaeography Genealogy & Topography was checked for Skinner documents in Essex and Sussex during the 17th century. The Essex section contained only two entries, neither of interest, while none at all was found in Sussex. Boyds Marriage Index was then consulted. This is the work of Percival Boyd, a Fellow of the Society of Genealogists, who in the 1930's compiled this enormous national marriage index containing seven million names, subdivided by county and then by period. Mainly compiled from printed parish registers, Bishops transcripts and marriage licenses, it covers the period from 1538 until 1837, when civil registration started. Its coverage of Essex in on the whole extremely good, but no trace was found of the marriage of Thomas Skinner and Mary. Then checked the one remaining church at Maldon where the registers had not been examined during the earlier research. Baptismal entries we searched from 1600 until 1625, but not a single entry under the name Skinner was found in the register of St Peter.

CONCLUSIONS It is disappointing that no trace of the elusive Thomas Skinner has yet been discovered, but there is plenty still remaining to be done in Essex, where the family living at Debden should be investigated, and a general search in the names index and other records at the Record office should be made to discover the main areas where families of the name were living at that time. International Genealogical Index coverage of the county is not at all good, so the fact that Thomas's baptism was not found in it should not be considered as too discouraging. It would also probably be wise to try to find the burial of Thomas Skinner of St Bartholomew, Chichester, whose 1599 will names sons Thomas and John, and to see whether the Thomas baptized in 1588 survived to adulthood. If he died young and had no younger brother called Thomas, it would at least narrow the field of choice by proving that this was not the ancestral family." (John Terry)


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